Children Bill [HL]

Division 1: held on 17 June 2004

114 Contents
93 Not Contents
The motion was agreed
Government defeat

Motion summary

It was moved by the Baroness Walmsley, in Clause 2, page 1, line 7, to leave out subsections (1) to (8) and insert: “(1) The Children’s Commissioner has, subject to the following provisions of this Part, the function of promoting and safeguarding the rights and interests of children in England. (2) The Children’s Commissioner may in particular under this section— (a) encourage persons exercising functions or engaged in activities affecting children to take account of their rights, views and interests; (b) advise the Secretary of State on the rights, views and interests of children; (c) review and report on the effectiveness of— (i) advice and advocacy services; (ii) complaints procedures; and (iii) inspection and whistle-blowing arrangements; so far as relating to children; (d) review and report on any other matter relating to the rights, views and interests of children. (3) The Children’s Commissioner must take reasonable steps to involve children in the discharge of his function under this section, and in particular to— (a) ensure that children are made aware of his function and how they may communicate with him; (b) consult children, and organisations working with children, on the matters he proposes to review and report on under subsection (2)(c) or (d); (c) ensure that the content of any material issued by the Commissioner or his staff, whether printed or in electronic or other form, which is intended to be used by children, takes account, so far as practicable, of the means of communication, level of understanding and usual language of the intended recipients. (4) The Children’s Commissioner must for the purposes of subsection (3) have particular regard to groups of children who do not have other adequate means by which they can make their views known. (5) The Children’s Commissioner or a person authorised by him may for the purposes of his function under this section at any reasonable time— (a) enter any premises, other than a private dwelling, for the purposes of interviewing any child accommodated or cared for there; and (b) if the child consents, interview the child in private. (6) Any person exercising functions under any enactment must supply the Children’s Commissioner with such information in that person’s possession relating to those functions as the Children’s Commissioner may reasonably request for the purposes of his function under this section (provided that the information is information which that person may, apart from this subsection, lawfully disclose to him). (7) The Children’s Commissioner may provide assistance to a child to bring legal proceedings where the child is unable to bring legal proceedings; and it appears to the Commissioner reasonable to do so and there is no other person or body likely to provide such assistance or take such action (or both). (8) In considering for the purpose of his function under this section what constitutes the rights and interests of children (generally or so far as relating to a particular matter) the Children’s Commissioner must have regard to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. (9) In subsection (8) the reference to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child is to the Convention on the Rights of the Child adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 20th November 1989, subject to any reservations, objections or interpretative declarations by the United Kingdom for the time being in force. (10) For the purposes of this section “children” includes— (a) young people in custody under the age of 22; (b) those young people for whom a local authority has duties under the Children (Leaving Care) Act 2000 (c. 35); and (c) young people with learning disabilities under the age of 21.”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and

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Roper, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Skelmersdale, L.
Conservative
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Members voting Content

Conservative (73)

Anelay of St Johns, B.
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Astor of Hever, L.
Conservative
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Attlee, E.
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Biffen, L.
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Blatch, B.
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Bridgeman, V.
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Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
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Brougham and Vaux, L.
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Byford, B.
Conservative
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Caithness, E.
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Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
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Carnegy of Lour, B.
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Chalker of Wallasey, B.
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Cockfield, L.
Conservative
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Colwyn, L.
Conservative
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Cope of Berkeley, L.
Conservative
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Crathorne, L.
Conservative
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Crickhowell, L.
Conservative
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Dean of Harptree, L.
Conservative
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Denham, L.
Conservative
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Eccles of Moulton, B.
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Elton, L.
Conservative
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Feldman, L.
Conservative
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Ferrers, E.
Conservative
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Fookes, B.
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Fowler, L.
Conservative
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Freeman, L.
Conservative
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Gardner of Parkes, B.
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Geddes, L.
Conservative
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Glentoran, L.
Conservative
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Hanningfield, L.
Conservative
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Hayhoe, L.
Conservative
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Henley, L.
Conservative
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Higgins, L.
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Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
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Hogg, B.
Conservative
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Howard of Rising, L.
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Howe of Aberavon, L.
Conservative
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Howe, E.
Conservative
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Jopling, L.
Conservative
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Kalms, L.
Conservative
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Kimball, L.
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King of Bridgwater, L.
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Kingsland, L.
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Luke, L.
Conservative
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Lyell, L.
Conservative
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MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
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Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Conservative
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Miller of Hendon, B.
Conservative
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Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Conservative
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Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Conservative
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Newton of Braintree, L.
Conservative
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Northesk, E.
Conservative
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Norton of Louth, L.
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Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
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Peel, E.
Conservative
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Perry of Southwark, B.
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Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Conservative
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Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Conservative
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Rawlings, B.
Conservative
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Renton, L.
Conservative
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Roberts of Conwy, L.
Conservative
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Seccombe, B.
Conservative
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Sharples, B.
Conservative
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Shaw of Northstead, L.
Conservative
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Skelmersdale, L.
Conservative
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St John of Fawsley, L.
Conservative
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Stewartby, L.
Conservative
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Strathclyde, L.
Conservative
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Swinfen, L.
Conservative
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Tebbit, L.
Conservative
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Ullswater, V.
Conservative
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Windlesham, L.
Conservative
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Howe of Idlicote, B.
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Hylton, L.
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Listowel, E.
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Masham of Ilton, B.
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Molyneaux of Killead, L.
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Palmer, L.
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Patel, L.
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Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
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Williamson of Horton, L.
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Liberal Democrat (31)

Addington, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Bradshaw, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Clement-Jones, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Dholakia, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Ezra, L.
Liberal Democrat
Life peer
Falkland, V.
Liberal Democrat
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Falkner of Margravine, B.
Liberal Democrat
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Garden, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Greaves, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Hamwee, B.
Liberal Democrat
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Harris of Richmond, B.
Liberal Democrat
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Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Liberal Democrat
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Newby, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Razzall, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Redesdale, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Roper, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Teller
Sharman, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Sharp of Guildford, B.
Liberal Democrat
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Shutt of Greetland, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Smith of Clifton, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Taverne, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Thomas of Gresford, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Liberal Democrat
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Tordoff, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Liberal Democrat
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Walmsley, B.
Liberal Democrat
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Williams of Crosby, B.
Liberal Democrat
Life peer

Other (1)

Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Green Party
Life peer

Tellers for the Not Contents

Davies of Oldham, L.
Labour
Life peer
Grocott, L.
Labour
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Members voting Not Content

Crossbench (12)

Allenby of Megiddo, V.
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Bhatia, L.
Crossbench
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Howarth of Breckland, B.
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Joffe, L.
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Laming, L.
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Marsh, L.
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Monson, L.
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Northbourne, L.
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Richardson of Calow, B.
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Slim, V.
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Tenby, V.
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Warnock, B.
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Labour (81)

Acton, L.
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Ahmed, L.
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Amos, B.
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Andrews, B.
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Ashton of Upholland, B.
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Bassam of Brighton, L.
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Berkeley, L.
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Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
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Billingham, B.
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Blood, B.
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Borrie, L.
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Brookman, L.
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Campbell-Savours, L.
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Carter, L.
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Clarke of Hampstead, L.
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Clinton-Davis, L.
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Cohen of Pimlico, B.
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Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
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Crawley, B.
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Davies of Oldham, L.
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Desai, L.
Labour
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Drayson, L.
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Dubs, L.
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Elder, L.
Labour
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Evans of Parkside, L.
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Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
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Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
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Faulkner of Worcester, L.
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Filkin, L.
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Gale, B.
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Gavron, L.
Labour
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Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
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Golding, B.
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Goldsmith, L.
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Gould of Potternewton, B.
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Graham of Edmonton, L.
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Grocott, L.
Labour
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Harris of Haringey, L.
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Harrison, L.
Labour
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Haskel, L.
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Henig, B.
Labour
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Hilton of Eggardon, B.
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Hollis of Heigham, B.
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Howells of St Davids, B.
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Hoyle, L.
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Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
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Irvine of Lairg, L.
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Janner of Braunstone, L.
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King of West Bromwich, L.
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Lea of Crondall, L.
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Levy, L.
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MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
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Massey of Darwen, B.
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McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
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Morgan, L.
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Morris of Aberavon, L.
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Morris of Manchester, L.
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Nicol, B.
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Patel of Blackburn, L.
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Pendry, L.
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Pitkeathley, B.
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Plant of Highfield, L.
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Randall of St Budeaux, L.
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Rendell of Babergh, B.
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Richard, L.
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Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
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Rogers of Riverside, L.
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Scotland of Asthal, B.
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Sewel, L.
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Sheldon, L.
Labour
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Simon, V.
Labour
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Strabolgi, L.
Labour
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Thornton, B.
Labour
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Tomlinson, L.
Labour
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Triesman, L.
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Turnberg, L.
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Turner of Camden, B.
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Warner, L.
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Whitty, L.
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Williams of Elvel, L.
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Woolmer of Leeds, L.
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